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		<title>By: Pandy</title>
		<link>http://beefbagel.com/bagel/2008/08/the-full-gambit/#comment-51770</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bling D. Bent is top class. I speak in all seriousness.</description>
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		<title>By: Bling</title>
		<link>http://beefbagel.com/bagel/2008/08/the-full-gambit/#comment-51645</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even playing at 50% Berbatov is still better than any striker we have or will realistically buy before the end of the window.</description>
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		<title>By: Brownpants</title>
		<link>http://beefbagel.com/bagel/2008/08/the-full-gambit/#comment-51643</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so now i hear we are still after arshavin , we have dropped our interest in Pavlyuchenko cos JR doesnt rate him, and now we are back in the hunt for big Freddy from Sevilla !?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so now i hear we are still after arshavin , we have dropped our interest in Pavlyuchenko cos JR doesnt rate him, and now we are back in the hunt for big Freddy from Sevilla !?!</p>
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		<title>By: TobytheYid</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it all looks like it's coming to an inevitable conclusion.

£28 Million is the price, Berbatov the player, and Man Utd the club.

All of which leaves me a little confused...Are we now looking for one striker, or two???

(For what it's worth, sad to see him leave, but good buisness Mr Levy.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it all looks like it&#8217;s coming to an inevitable conclusion.</p>
<p>£28 Million is the price, Berbatov the player, and Man Utd the club.</p>
<p>All of which leaves me a little confused&#8230;Are we now looking for one striker, or two???</p>
<p>(For what it&#8217;s worth, sad to see him leave, but good buisness Mr Levy.)</p>
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		<title>By: mitch</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was the formation that we ended up going with against Roma?  It looked from the highlights like Gio was on the left and Bentley on the right with Bent up front, but did Berba start as a second striker?  Was it a 4-3-3 or a 4-5-1 look?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was the formation that we ended up going with against Roma?  It looked from the highlights like Gio was on the left and Bentley on the right with Bent up front, but did Berba start as a second striker?  Was it a 4-3-3 or a 4-5-1 look?</p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
		<link>http://beefbagel.com/bagel/2008/08/the-full-gambit/#comment-51560</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will we be getting a roma match report ,bagel?</description>
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		<title>By: America</title>
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		<dc:creator>America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the great transfer sagas of this summer: Berbatov, Adebayor, Ronaldo, Lampard, Barry, what do these all have in common?

None of them actually left.

The American sports press is bad, but its not this bad. I'm going to go watch baseball now, wake me up when someone actually kicks a ball</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the great transfer sagas of this summer: Berbatov, Adebayor, Ronaldo, Lampard, Barry, what do these all have in common?</p>
<p>None of them actually left.</p>
<p>The American sports press is bad, but its not this bad. I&#8217;m going to go watch baseball now, wake me up when someone actually kicks a ball</p>
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		<title>By: mackster</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>copied from an email, not sure how true, but sounds authentic.... 


"Let me start by saying that I am neither City or Spurs, but I do know a little about what is happening with Corluka due to a 'business' interest. 

When Spurs first made contact, it was Shinawatra's people that agreed a fee with Spurs and told Corluka he was free to leave. They did that without Mark Hughes' knowledge or consent. 

Corluka was suprised to say the least. When Hughes took over he told Corluka he was one of the mainstays in his future plan for MCFC. Nevertheless, Corluka travelled to London to meet with Spurs' people. 

Hughes then found out about the deal, and basically vetoed it - which was something the Thai's people had agreed he could do with any transfer activity when he took over. That's when Corluka was summoned back to Manchester to go up to Glasgow for the Celtic friendly. 

Behind the scenes a real row started between Hughes and certain elements of the board; Hughes furious that they had gone behind his back to sell Corluka to Spurs, and the board enraged that Hughes had effectively recalled him from London for the Celtic game. 

Shinawatra's people told Hughes that evening that the deal was 'too good to turn down', largely due to Shinawatra's financial problems. So, immediately after the Celtic game, Corluka flew back to London to resume talks with Spurs. 

When Spurs' initial offer was accepted, Corluka had no real desire to leave City. That wasn't anything against Spurs, more the vision for the future of MCFC he had been sold by Hughes and Cook. However, after meeting with Spurs and talking with Modric, Corluka was sold on Tottenham and agreed terms. He went through a two-day medical, which he passed without problem. He's been holed up in a London since early Friday morning - hence why he missed the club photo. 

Spurs agreed the final details for the transfer with City yesterday morning, and Corluka put pen to paper on his player registration. 

Then City's people accepted the offer from Sunderland for Stephen Ireland, and Hughes went properly mental. Twice in 48 hours he felt he was having players he wanted sold from under him. In a rage, it was Hughes who called Ireland and told him he was expected to report to the CoMS to report for the Milan game. Hughes putting him on for a couple of minutes was a big statement on his part. 

Here comes the really interesting part. 

Hughes last night told Cook he was through with City and wants out, the sale of Corluka and Ireland being the straw that broke the camel's back. He said if the Corluka deal went through particularly, he would be on his way out of City too. 

At that point City have tried to derail the Corluka and Ireland deals. 

BUT, Spurs claim to have completed the paper work for the transfer which has already been lodged with the FA and signed by someone from City with authorisation to do so. City say they agreed a sale in principle with Spurs, but that no final transfer documents had been signed. 

As such Corluka, who was expecting to be paraded at White Hart Lane this afternoon, is in limbo. However, he has now set his heart on Spurs and linking up with Modric and has told City he will not return to the CoMS under any circumstances. He has been sold on Tottenham, and become frustrated with the background stuff taking place at City. 

Spurs and City are maintaining their respective positions, but Spurs have basically told City that they are willing to see the issue go to court. They believe they have signed Corluka, and Corluka wants to play for them. 

What a mess." 
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from an alleged employee of MCFC - 

"I'm sorry to say this, as a life long fan and - for the last few (for me at least) unforgettable months - employee, MCFC as we know it is finished. Here are the FACTS, for those who really want to know. Thaksin is, as of midlnight 10th August, 2008, an international fugitive. 

He now has to be found guilty of corruption in Thailand in his absense, offering no defence. Extradition requests will surely follow. The PL will then have to find him short of the fit and proper ownership rules (and believe me, the pressure for that from fellow 'members' has been growing since June). 

Thaksin is trying to palm off City onto whoever will now take it, an insolvent mess of a business, completely incapable of sustaining itself. The truth is that the only interested party (until recently) - Wardle - is not now able to bail City out now , he cant come close on his own and no partners have been found. The wage bioll and committments due on the last 2 years' transfers have spiralled out of control. 

The Corluka affair is the last straw - I personally worked on the deal and can assure anyone interested that he has already been transferred to Spurs. Spurs have this evening started legal action, and he will be barred from playing for City following an injunction in the courts tomorrow. 

Personally I expect Hughes to then resign on principal (he has no choice now, he is on record as saying that he will have final say on all transfers). Many wont believe any of this, but a few will. 

I am very close to this situation (readers will never know who I am or how close - a few would know my name but it isnt appropriate to for me to come 'out') - trust me, I am close enough to know what has happeneded in the last fortnight, I am pissed off with it (as a fan, and as someone who has worked hard for the club durinig the ast 18 months or so) and it must be said, a little drunk. 

I am posting this message on a few sites - apologies for those that keep reading it, but I want City fans to know what is happening. The sad truth is we are finished, and that as a result, the PL will be facing its biggest challenge since inception within 2 weeks of now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>copied from an email, not sure how true, but sounds authentic&#8230;. </p>
<p>&#8220;Let me start by saying that I am neither City or Spurs, but I do know a little about what is happening with Corluka due to a &#8216;business&#8217; interest. </p>
<p>When Spurs first made contact, it was Shinawatra&#8217;s people that agreed a fee with Spurs and told Corluka he was free to leave. They did that without Mark Hughes&#8217; knowledge or consent. </p>
<p>Corluka was suprised to say the least. When Hughes took over he told Corluka he was one of the mainstays in his future plan for MCFC. Nevertheless, Corluka travelled to London to meet with Spurs&#8217; people. </p>
<p>Hughes then found out about the deal, and basically vetoed it - which was something the Thai&#8217;s people had agreed he could do with any transfer activity when he took over. That&#8217;s when Corluka was summoned back to Manchester to go up to Glasgow for the Celtic friendly. </p>
<p>Behind the scenes a real row started between Hughes and certain elements of the board; Hughes furious that they had gone behind his back to sell Corluka to Spurs, and the board enraged that Hughes had effectively recalled him from London for the Celtic game. </p>
<p>Shinawatra&#8217;s people told Hughes that evening that the deal was &#8216;too good to turn down&#8217;, largely due to Shinawatra&#8217;s financial problems. So, immediately after the Celtic game, Corluka flew back to London to resume talks with Spurs. </p>
<p>When Spurs&#8217; initial offer was accepted, Corluka had no real desire to leave City. That wasn&#8217;t anything against Spurs, more the vision for the future of MCFC he had been sold by Hughes and Cook. However, after meeting with Spurs and talking with Modric, Corluka was sold on Tottenham and agreed terms. He went through a two-day medical, which he passed without problem. He&#8217;s been holed up in a London since early Friday morning - hence why he missed the club photo. </p>
<p>Spurs agreed the final details for the transfer with City yesterday morning, and Corluka put pen to paper on his player registration. </p>
<p>Then City&#8217;s people accepted the offer from Sunderland for Stephen Ireland, and Hughes went properly mental. Twice in 48 hours he felt he was having players he wanted sold from under him. In a rage, it was Hughes who called Ireland and told him he was expected to report to the CoMS to report for the Milan game. Hughes putting him on for a couple of minutes was a big statement on his part. </p>
<p>Here comes the really interesting part. </p>
<p>Hughes last night told Cook he was through with City and wants out, the sale of Corluka and Ireland being the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back. He said if the Corluka deal went through particularly, he would be on his way out of City too. </p>
<p>At that point City have tried to derail the Corluka and Ireland deals. </p>
<p>BUT, Spurs claim to have completed the paper work for the transfer which has already been lodged with the FA and signed by someone from City with authorisation to do so. City say they agreed a sale in principle with Spurs, but that no final transfer documents had been signed. </p>
<p>As such Corluka, who was expecting to be paraded at White Hart Lane this afternoon, is in limbo. However, he has now set his heart on Spurs and linking up with Modric and has told City he will not return to the CoMS under any circumstances. He has been sold on Tottenham, and become frustrated with the background stuff taking place at City. </p>
<p>Spurs and City are maintaining their respective positions, but Spurs have basically told City that they are willing to see the issue go to court. They believe they have signed Corluka, and Corluka wants to play for them. </p>
<p>What a mess.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- </p>
<p>from an alleged employee of MCFC - </p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry to say this, as a life long fan and - for the last few (for me at least) unforgettable months - employee, MCFC as we know it is finished. Here are the FACTS, for those who really want to know. Thaksin is, as of midlnight 10th August, 2008, an international fugitive. </p>
<p>He now has to be found guilty of corruption in Thailand in his absense, offering no defence. Extradition requests will surely follow. The PL will then have to find him short of the fit and proper ownership rules (and believe me, the pressure for that from fellow &#8216;members&#8217; has been growing since June). </p>
<p>Thaksin is trying to palm off City onto whoever will now take it, an insolvent mess of a business, completely incapable of sustaining itself. The truth is that the only interested party (until recently) - Wardle - is not now able to bail City out now , he cant come close on his own and no partners have been found. The wage bioll and committments due on the last 2 years&#8217; transfers have spiralled out of control. </p>
<p>The Corluka affair is the last straw - I personally worked on the deal and can assure anyone interested that he has already been transferred to Spurs. Spurs have this evening started legal action, and he will be barred from playing for City following an injunction in the courts tomorrow. </p>
<p>Personally I expect Hughes to then resign on principal (he has no choice now, he is on record as saying that he will have final say on all transfers). Many wont believe any of this, but a few will. </p>
<p>I am very close to this situation (readers will never know who I am or how close - a few would know my name but it isnt appropriate to for me to come &#8216;out&#8217;) - trust me, I am close enough to know what has happeneded in the last fortnight, I am pissed off with it (as a fan, and as someone who has worked hard for the club durinig the ast 18 months or so) and it must be said, a little drunk. </p>
<p>I am posting this message on a few sites - apologies for those that keep reading it, but I want City fans to know what is happening. The sad truth is we are finished, and that as a result, the PL will be facing its biggest challenge since inception within 2 weeks of now.</p>
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		<title>By: IrishYid</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the berba deal is done 28m....nice money

From what i have seen in pre season he cant be arsed, still could turn it on if he wants a certain bit of skill against celtic showed that...but i think Ramos changing about the formation might work, new Defender, and Strike and well be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the berba deal is done 28m&#8230;.nice money</p>
<p>From what i have seen in pre season he cant be arsed, still could turn it on if he wants a certain bit of skill against celtic showed that&#8230;but i think Ramos changing about the formation might work, new Defender, and Strike and well be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Write another column!</description>
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